Seed Probiotics – No Persistence

I just got my 2nd microbiome done at the end of two months of the new Seed Probiotic. Conclusion: No persistence despite being human strains.

See my prior posts on Seed:

The conclusion is clear using the recent enhancements to the http://microbiomeprescription.azurewebsites.net site, “My Taxon Time Line” available to those who have uploaded two or more (you need two samples to get a time line!). Below are before and at the end of each of the two months with Seed.

By Lactobacillus Species

Bottom Line

If this probiotic shows up on your recommended list — then take it. It’s effect should be to shift the balance — but do not expect persistence. If you wish to increase Lactobacillus, you should be taking bacillus probiotics, see this earlier post by someone with high lactobacillus and bifidobacterium.

Jay 7:06 pm on July 5, 2019

Hi Ken, I cannot take any kind of Lactobacillus strains due to D lactate issues/buildup. Do you have a recommendation for the best probiotic that wouldn’t cause D or L lactate?
- lassesen 8:16 am on July 6, 2019
  
  Bacillus: My own preference in Enterogermina. Bacillus Clausii/
Jay 8:47 pm on July 6, 2019

Could i also take Advanced Orthomolecular Research AOR which contains… Enterococcus faecium T-110, Clostridium butyricum , Bacillus subtilis ?
lassesen 7:20 am on July 7, 2019

Yes, that is an excellent suggestion.
geert 4:43 am on January 27, 2021

It’s odd that in many of your articles you recommend not taking any probiotic for longer than 2 weeks, though you write here you have been on the same one for two months?

Reason I ask is because almost all of the recommended probiotics from your website (I’m struggling with cfs) are bifido and lactobacillus, which does not give me much room to rotate. I will be taking symbioflor2 and equilibrium too though.

Kind regards,
Geert
lassesen 5:27 am on January 27, 2021

Hi Geert, there can be several intents / patterns.
* Pattern of using probiotics for their Bacteriocins (natural antibiotics) – when the rotation is suggested to prevent resistance to the Bacteriocins produced.
* Pattern of using probiotics to supplement missing enzymes etc — in this case a longer duration 4-6 weeks cycles may be warranted to allow the body to normalize.
* In this case, my goal was to determine if, given enough time, any of the probiotic species were persist. This probiotic mixture did not after a long opportunity to.

Good question.