From a reader. His prior microbiome analysis is here.

A short update…

• About two months ago I had a sinus infection and got a week long course of Amoxicillin for it. Almost all my symptoms went away during the antibiotic treatment.
• Each day I was just waiting to get to take my daily dose, the improvement was so substantial.
  • After finishing the course, it took about 48 hours until I was pretty much back to where I started.
• After the treatment stopped, the symptoms came back. Nothing changed in the end.
• But while on the treatment I felt great. I slept fantastic. All my pain went away. All my tired and wired symptoms went away. But the improvement did not persist.
• Two weeks ago I went to see a doc that I know fairly well, and told him what happened. After hearing my story, he gave me a month long treatment of Doxycycline. I do not know his rationale for not giving me Amoxicillin.
• Many years ago I also had a lung infection and was treated with Ciprofloxacin. It also removed the symptoms during treatment.
• The Doxycycline does nothing for my symptoms. It only creates an upset stomach, when Amoxicillin gave me no side effects except curing my CFS and MCS.
• Why does Amoxicillin help, but Doxycycline not? But not Doxycycline..the one antibiotic I managed to get a lot of..but it does not help.

Are there any conclusions to be drawn from this information?

We have this person’s microbiome uploaded, so first step is to just run “Just Give Me Suggestions”

• amoxicillin (antibiotic)s[CFS] is 590
• ciprofloxacin (antibiotic)s[CFS] is 191
• doxycycline (antibiotic)s[CFS] is 362

I then using the available data for these three to see what the other two does not — i.e. the smoking gun

Next, we look at his last sample for these and found:

Next step is to look at the combinations of these top 3 bacteria to see how they rank (percentile) in combination

• Enterobacter,Enterococcus – 72%ile
• Enterococcus, Lelliottia – 75%ile
• Enterobacter, Lelliottia – 74%ile
• Enterobacter, Enterococcus, Lelliottia – 79%ile

The presence of Lelliottia makes things marginally more significant.

Looking at the Taxa Tree

One possibility is that the cause of not a genus that is reported with 16s tests. Looking at the tree we can determine the “unknowns” The Family is 910 from which we remove (150,70,230,40,10) ending with 410 unclassified i.e. almost half of the bacteria in Enterobacterales are not identified. Any smoking gun may be hidden in the deficiencies of 16s testing.

Where we are

We do not know precisely the bacteria involved with ME/CFS and MCS. For this person, the antibiotic history does allow us to identify possible candidates. The next question is obvious, which antibiotics should we suggest to the MD? We have the consensus list and we want to reduce it to those that impact these three bacteria as the most likely to help.

For all three bacteria, we have the following list (Note that the [CFS] indicates that it is often used by ME/CFS Specialists)

The challenge is now persuading the MD to prescribe these based on the microbiome sample and this analysis. Next we look at alternatives.

Non Prescription Approaches

As above, we restrict to those items that reduces all three of the above bacteria

• ALL probiotics were negative
• Nothing for Amino Acid and similar
• Nothing for Prebiotics and similar
• Nothing for Food or Diet Style
• Nothing for Vitamins and Minerals (Vitamin B2 was just a 2)
• Hesperidin (polyphenol) – was over 800 and the only Flavonoids, polyphenols with a positive value
• N-Acetyl Cysteine (NAC) – was over 700 and the sole common supplement
• chitosan,(sugar) – was 200’s and the sole sugar

Herbs and Spices

I have also been trying multiple different herbs. The one which so far has given the best effect is an alcoholic tincture of Artemisia Annua.

From reader

Wormwood(artemisia) is a 21 (minor positive impact predicted). It reduces some genus of Enterobacteriaceae but nothing reported for Enterococcus, Lelliottia or Enterobacter.

Suggestions to discuss with MD

If antibiotics are not viable then the following seems to be the best choices

• Hesperidin (polyphenol)
• N-Acetyl Cysteine (NAC)
• Foeniculum Vulgare, Fennel
• laser trilobum l.,kefe cumin
• Hypericin, St. John’s Wort
• Neem

Hesperidin..very interesting herb. It says to assist with blood flow and blood vessel health, exactly the type of issues I am dealing with. I will try it.

Feedback from person on draft

Bottom Line

This was a very interesting post because we seem to be able to identify the family of bacteria involved with this person’s symptoms Enterobacteriaceae. This agrees with the literature.

• “The prevalence and median values for serum IgA against the LPS of enterobacteria were significantly greater in patients with CFS than in normal volunteers and patients with partial CFS.” [2010]
• “Often, a lower Bacteroides/Firmicutes ratio can be accompanied by an increase in Enterobacteriaceae, therefore suggesting a complete reshuffling of the gut microbiota composition” [2021]
• “Increased Serum IgA and IgM against LPS of Enterobacteria in Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS): Indication for the Involvement of Gram-Negative Enterobacteria in the Etiology of CFS and for the Presence of an Increased Gut-Intestinal Permeability” [2007]

I do have a concern that almost 50% of the genus in Enterobacteriaceae were not identified in the sample. We are in a bit of fog — which we will address by assuming it will also be sensitive to it sibling genus.

Postscript – and Reminder

I am not a licensed medical professional and there are strict laws where I live about “appearing to practice medicine”.  I am safe when it is “academic models” and I keep to the language of science, especially statistics. I am not safe when the explanations have possible overtones of advising a patient instead of presenting data to be evaluated by a medical professional before implementing.

I cannot tell people what they should take or not take. I can inform people items that have better odds of improving their microbiome as a results on numeric calculations. I am a trained experienced statistician with appropriate degrees and professional memberships. All suggestions should be reviewed by your medical professional before starting.

The answers above describe my logic and thinking and is not intended to give advice to this person or any one. Always review with your knowledgeable medical professional.

Estácio Ferreira Ramos M.D. CEO, Cytomica®, Inc. | CTO, Microbio.World® | Hematology-

If you search ME/CFS + the name of a developed country, and then others, you will find that nations with high HDI are dealing with a bizarre, chameleonic, epidemic and endemic disease, a debilitating, systemic, very serious condition in many cases, and associated to suicides – a disease that has an incredible and revealing history, and that is expanding in cities almost all over the world, especially in the West.

Although it is said that it is still not enough, there are initiatives in these countries by numerous foundations, NGOs, universities, health systems, social movements, professionals, clinics and laboratories, patient associations, and company programs, aimed at raising awareness, funding, and combating the disease. Recently ME/CFS was discussed in the German parliament, and yesterday I read that it will be part of the UK medical curriculum. Fantastic. I have been studying the disease for 18 years.

The Netherlands, Belgium, and the Scandinavian countries are also especially victimized by ME/CFS and similarly develop medical education, awareness, treatment, and prevention programs. In the highly evolved and cold Iceland, where epidemic outbreaks occurred, the disease was so prevalent that it acquired local names: neuromyasthenia, Akureyri’s disease, and later Iceland disease. In the United States, in 2008, ME/CFS was considered by the CDC as the most concerning public health problem in the country. In Canada, the prevalence is as high or greater than in the USA.

These are characteristics common to countries with a lot of ME/CFS, a high HDI, an abundance of industrialized (sterilized) food; and perhaps, very cold winters. In Oceania and Japan, the prevalence appears to be somewhat lower.

A map of ME/CFS epidemics published by Donald Acheson in 1959 already showed target countries; these have changed little, but the number of patients has exploded.

The maps in Chapter 15 of Pandemics Entangled© also lay bare this epidemiological aberration, and the website of the American Myalgic Encephalomyelitis and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Society brings another outdated world map of ME/CFS that confirms what this text describes: ME/CFS is a disease of rich countries.

However, in developing nations the ME/CFS story is different. Let us see.

Search now ME/CFS + the name of a tropical developing country: you find nothing or almost nothing. In these countries, the disease is practically unknown, because, in fact, the number of people affected is relatively much smaller. But not just for that.

These numbers are repeated throughout Latin America, and most of Asia: ME/CFS in these regions is almost non-existent. In African nations, the prevalence is very low, with two exceptions: South Africa (where there is a high HDI and cold winters), and Nigeria, whose high prevalence of ME/CFS is attributed to endemic malaria; but which in my opinion is due more to the excessive or preventive use of antibiotics, due to the large number of infections of the water cycle.

Let’s consider Brazil, a continental country, with 215 million inhabitants, large metropolises, 546 thousand doctors, powerful advanced medicine, hospitals among the best on the planet, a gigantic public and universal health system, legal telemedicine, and 357 medical schools – the largest number of medical schools in the world. However, searching today (June 24, 2023) on Google using Chrome: ME/CFS + Brasil; I found only one paper from 2010 that mentions CFS, nothing else. No publication in the last thirteen years even mentions the acronym ME/CFS.

Using Microsoft’s Bing, I found only a brief discussion on a Forum (February 2021) outside of Brazil Brazil: ME/CFS in Brazil | Phoenix Rising ME/CFS Forums, which reported on the lack of awareness of the disease in the country; and revealed the launch of the country’s first website about the condition.

I participate in some groups of doctors; among 800 professionals, only six knew about the disease; two of them have the condition.

And why does this happen?

I understand there are four reasons:

1) The country’s medical culture ignores the existence of ME/CFS, setting up a classic example by Claude Bernard: the doctor does not know what he is looking for, and does not value what he finds;

2) many patients with ME/CFS are labeled as having fibromyalgia, and many others remain undiagnosed;

3) because there is much less disease; restricted to classes A|B, almost three women for every man; and …

4) due to prejudice from health professionals; resulting from lack of knowledge and the unresolved problem that each patient brings or represents; and that closes the vicious circle. Just to cite one example, months ago, a renowned cardiologist colleague confessed to me among friends and other colleagues: “I hate it when the patient says he has fibromyalgia! ”… And he added: “If I could avoid it, I wouldn’t even evaluate the patient.”

So it is. For fifteen years, in order to better identify and investigate 70 patients with ME/CFS, I had to see 201 patients whose main diagnosis was fibromyalgia; another 39 were diagnosed with Lyme, viral fatigue, chronic EBV, psychosis, etc. Only 20 had the initial diagnosis of ME/CFS, formulated by me.

ME/CFS is a disease of rich countries, yes; but not only of those. And don’t make the mistake of thinking that the number of ME/CFS victims in Brazil and other developing countries is negligible; in the most privileged parts of these countries thousands live under a high HDI; and similarly develop the condition and fill the most luxurious offices and the relatively new pain clinics.

Importantly, in early 2020, long before the coexistence of ME/CFS and Covid complications now known as Covid Longa was described, I foresaw what are now facts: that the incidence of ME/CFS would explode in the post-Covid world, and that sequelae or late effects of the coronavirus would add to, or confound with ME/CFS – that the pandemics would entangle.

Therefore, in mid-2020 I changed the title of the work to Outbreak 64®, and then created the new page on LinkedIn, starting Pandemics Entangled© the only editorial project on the platform, where I published the Foreword, and then the first chapters of a now completed book.

The results of the research, the experience with the patients, and data from the literature make it necessary to recognize that the fundamental etiogenic factor for ME/CFS is the hostile environmental disturbance that leads to the breakdown of the greater symbiosis; understanding the greater symbiosis as the complex and vital relationship that we need to maintain with the microbial world, and which, when broken, imposes burdens on homeostasis and leads to the state of disease.

There are many examples of our dependence on flora. Doctors are aware of the bleeding problem that stems from antibiotics. These drugs reduce the population of bacteria in the intestine that produce vitamin K, which is needed for clotting proteins. Without these bacteria, without this vitamin, we can bleed.

By way of illustration, in an elegant post by Elena Panzeri, the infographic below reveals 35 metabolites of the microbiome that participate in the development, function, and integrity of the human brain.

The list is another example of the vital principles that are provided by the microscopic creatures that surround us and that we carry along with us; whose scarcity, imbalance, or anomalous interaction in an inhospitable environment, leads to what we know as ME/CFS. It makes sense to assume that the same is true for all other organs and systems.

The paradox of a so-called incurable disease, which has a rate of 4% to 8% of spontaneous cures reinforces this conviction. These healings occur by re-establishing the great symbiosis – casual, deliberate, or professionally oriented.

Today I read an article in which the author advocates the need for caution in attempts to restore the microbiome in ME/CFS patients, with which I wholeheartedly agree; it is difficult. But I don’t agree with the viral illness that she advocates as the cause of illness.

The cause is the deprivation and destruction of beneficial microorganisms in the surroundings and in the lives of those affected. In other words, the cause is the victory of civilization in the stupid war imposed on the microorganisms on which we depend for life and health. Due to fear of infections, we resolved that we should destroy them all around us, malefic and benefic, in every way. The result is ME/CFS. Just do not see it who refuses to see.

I have already posted repeatedly here that, once installed, the ME/CFS is a heavy transatlantic that left its course carried away by a strong current; correcting its course is usually a slow, tiring, painful process.

What I call an antibiotic environment is an environment hostile to the microbiome of urban life, with a high standard of sanitation, excessive hygiene, chlorinated and fluoridated water, and reduced social contact. The antibiotic environment is in hospitals and in the lives of health professionals; it can start with surgical, aseptic birth, and expand into the lives of solitary people, small families, apartments without animals and plants; and in detergents and antiseptics in all their forms; in the excessive use of antibiotics and antifungals, deodorants, alcohol gel, mouthwashes; it is in fast food, and in sterile foods, mainly industrially processed ones, in the additives and agrochemicals added to those; in pasteurization, in UHT, in irradiated foods, in preserves, in canned goods.

There is an enormous amount of chemical and antibacterial substances in industrialized foods, and it is legitimate to believe that they damage our flora.

In human food, this friendly, green, ECO logo, with a natural, organic look, is the radura logo. It signals that your food has been irradiated.

Irradiation is the pasteurization of the 21st century.

Radiation does not remain in the product and theoretically irradiated food is not harmful; but the good it does is limited; it roasts the DNA of any form of life, it kills all fungi and bacteria; extends the validity and duration of products. Dairy products lose life (fermenters die), are plasticized, and get chemical flavorings for flavor; and the banana in the plastic wrapper lasts over a month on the shelf.

It is relevant information that ME/CFS does not exist in simple people, nor in the rural environment in Brazil.

The opposite of ME/CFS is life in the countryside, it’s in full houses, with real food, made by hands, with fresh ingredients. It is in the water of the rivers, in the garden and in the garden, in bare feet, in unprotected sex, on the beach, in craft beer, in wine, in domestic animals, in fresh milk, and in food fermented at home.

I have examples and testimonies of people who have been healed by lifestyle changes. The adoption of a probiotic lifestyle, which includes the consumption of various natural probiotics, gradually improves the clinical picture.

There is a video of the end of the pandemic, in which the famous Brazilian actor Lima Duarte recounts his childhood in which he would wake up with his father at dawn, to take the calf to the cow and be able to milk it. He says that it is the cow’s love for her calf that makes her release her milk; and prophesies that other pandemics will come because we are living wrong – that the cow’s love is missing in the milk from mechanical milking. And what is more serious, I add: cow and calf microbiomes are also missing, my dear.

ME/CFS is the apple of the eye of anyone who sells diagnoses and treatments, finances or carries out research, creates products, information, and technology to treat the symptoms of a so-called never-ending disease, which causes so much suffering – and which is also a vast and fertile ground for all kinds of quackery.

To avoid conflict of interest, all medical research work was pro bono. All patients were returned to the colleagues who referred them.

Source: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/mecfs-pandemic-wealthy-est%C3%A1cio-ferreira-ramos-m-d-/