lassesen 7:00 pm on February 25, 2015

New Probiotic on Market: L Reuteri NCIMB 30242 (ONLY)

There are eight PubMed studies on this strain.

Significantly changes the size and composition of the circulating bile acid [2015]
a greater proportion of L. reuteri-treated subjects showed improved general GI health status (p = 0.042) and improved diarrhea symptoms (p = 0.03). [2013]
the first report of increased circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D in response to oral probiotic supplementation[2013]

For general information about L.Reuteri see my earlier post.

Available from manufacturer and on Amazon.

This stain is also sold as Cardioviva on amazon

I have just ordered some myself.

Lee Lee 10:41 pm on February 25, 2015

I believe that lot of us with ME/CFS (or whatever you fancy calling it now) have high and sometimes very high levels of 25-hydroxyvitamin D … so I am assuming L Reuteri would be a bad idea? Have I got that wrong?
- lassesen 2:10 am on February 26, 2015
  
  I believe you are incorrect. High level of active Vitamin D (1-25D , not 25D) is seen with most autoimmune diseases. The level goes up and down with symptoms. I had very high during my last relapse (so high, that the lab re-did the test because they thought they had made a processing error). As remission happen, this dropped down to normal levels. This is 1-25D level which is rarely measured.
  
  With 25-D, CFS and FM patients have low or very low levels. A German physician found that some CFS patients went into remission by just supplementing with Vitamin D.
  
  Other studies found that the degree and severity of symptoms decrease as vitamin D levels increase. My recommendation (to be discussed with your knowledgable health professional) is to go for the very TOP of the normal range. This will often require 15000 – 25000 IU/day depending on age and other factors.
  
  I read the increase of Vitamin D by this probiotic as a very good outcome. It is likely replacing some gut bacteria that has been loss due to CFS/FM and may help with restoring a healthy gut (and remission from CFS/FM).
Lee Lee 5:10 am on February 26, 2015

ah yes, thanks for clarifying that …. Im having a bad brain fog day.
Marcia 4:55 am on March 1, 2015

Do you take vitamin K2 with vitamin D? Also, are you concerned about the titanium dioxide in the probiotics?
- Lee Lee 12:04 am on March 12, 2015
  
  I purchase some of this from the manufacturer nearly 2 weeks ago. I did not receive and email confirmation from them that they had received my order. I checked my paypal account and the money had in fact gone through to them so I emailed them and explained and asked if they did have my order etc … and they have ignored my email … so they have my money and I have no idea if they intend sending my order or not …. I hate bad customer service!
  - lassesen 4:13 am on March 12, 2015
    
    I ordered via Amazon — price was similar and free-delivery because of being on Prime. It arrived on time (2 days).
    - Lee Lee 4:23 am on March 12, 2015
      
      Thanks for letting me know .. I will order some from Amazon 🙂
    - Lee Lee 11:14 pm on March 13, 2015
      
      ah bummer, Amazon wont ship this to Australia which is where I am 😦 I tried emailing the manufacturer again but they are still ignoring my emails … sooo annoying!
      - Rosa Entrealmendros (Rosi) 7:48 am on October 19, 2017
        
        Did you receive the product from the manufacturer?
        
        Lee 8:05 am on October 19, 2017
        
        I did end up getting hold of some, but it didnt agree with me .. my gut didnt like it at all 😦
        
        lassesen 6:20 pm on October 22, 2017
        
        Describe “didn’t agree” — often when a new effective probiotic is taken it provoke a lot of changes — which will usually quiet down in 7-10 days.
        
        Lee 9:18 pm on October 22, 2017
        
        I really cant remember, it was a long time ago that I took it. I do know that I took it for maybe a week and I got progressively worse and so stopped it, but I cant remember what the symptoms were that I experienced from it.
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Rosa Entrealmendros (Rosi) 10:48 am on October 30, 2017

Ken, I received my order for this strain of L. reuteri, I am now taking L.casei as recommended, with vitamin K. I was advised to add Reuteri to all available strains. ¿Should I interrupt L. casei or can I add Reuteri together?, I would like to do Casei for 8 weeks, now I have four and it is the first time that with Casei I had a bit of herx, I think he’s working.
- Rosa Entrealmendros (Rosi) 10:56 am on October 30, 2017
  
  You advised me to take L.casei, L.reuteri (all possible strains) and L. ramnosus GG. my question is whether to add each probiotic, whether to stop and rest or finish the box and then start with the next. Thank you very much Ken, you are a true master, he does not give us fish …. he teaches us to fish.
- lassesen 11:46 am on October 30, 2017
  
  You should be good taking both at the same time. Apart from the risk of more herx — they should play well together.
  Some literature:
  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25707114
  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27341804

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